Bob uses a profane name for the president and it's OK?

[leftyg]

Biz wrote when he layed down the rules:

It's quite simple actually...

1. Don't curse. Pretend your mother and grandmother are in the room. We hold the same rules that apply to on air content. You know which words can't be used: s-word, f-word, p-word, c-word, c-sucker, mf'er, n-word, t-word, etc.

Replacing one letter with a "*" is not acceptable. We have to bleep the entire word for on air content. Those words are to be used only as portrayed above. When in doubt, leave it out.

Far enough, I have always followed that rule But not Bob Frantz. He wrote about President Obama

That stupid sonofabitch just admitted it!

After all this time blaming Bush and the "failed economic policies of the last 8 years"....he just admitted it!

I don't know about you but calling the president of the United States a "stupid sonofabitch" pretty much trumps anything I have heard on this blog. OR do we have different standards for some people?

At the very least it reflects poorly on Bob as a person, but it reflects badly on Biz and Dave Ramos for letting it stand. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4433&start=0

[Biz]

"bitch" and "son of a bitch" are acceptable content.

Personal attacks on the character of other posters are not; for significant 3rd parties they are.

[Ed Chagrin Falls]

Personal attacks on the character of other posters are not; for significant 3rd parties they are.

Biz, have you ever seen any of Sharp's posts directed at me?

[leftyg]

Thanx Biz for the answer. I really do not care. I still see it as a point for our side because it is an ad hominem attack. But I do not remember myself ever passing a certain point in criticising President Bush. I know I would not call him a stupid sonofabitch. I think we just have better arguments and do not have to resort to name calling.

[SPAWN]

Biz, have you ever seen any of Sharp's posts directed at me?

[leftyg]

Biz have you ever seen any of Bob's posts directed at Ed or me? He called Ed "a retard" and he called me "a pathetic liar" and implied that I was a communist!

[Biz]

Biz have you ever seen any of Bob's posts directed at Ed or me? He called Ed "a retard" and he called me "a pathetic liar" and implied that I was a communist!

But has he ever called you a

f-word

gobbler or called your mother a name? Probably not. Mean things are said here, the obscene is not.

Would a hug make you feel better?

[leftyg]

I'm sure he thuoght it. Anyway that was some good clip art!

[Biz]

Thx, Calvin and Hobbes Rock!

[mouthbreather]

That bastard.

He called Ed "a retard" and he called me "a pathetic liar" and implied that I was a communist!

We’re all fully aware of Eddies affliction. ?????You’re not a commie? Coulda' fooled me...

[SubVetTonyP]

Thx, Calvin and Hobbes Rock!

I miss them, too.

[daveramos]

I will allow this.

End of discussion.

However...if you insult a monk, you're going to have to answer to a higher power...

[hoosierguy]

What if I insult a Friar? Will I have to answer to a slightly less higher power?

[SubVetTonyP]

I will allow this.

End of discussion.

However...if you insult a monk, you're going to have to answer to a higher power...

You will pay if you insult

[mouthbreather]

I will allow this.

End of discussion.

However...if you insult a monk, you're going to have to answer to a higher power...

Good mornin' David!

[daveramos]

If you insult USA Network's "Monk", he'll likely come and clean your house!

[hoosierguy]

Can we paraphrase Lefty in our posts?

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Good enough for me...

[SPAWN]

What if I insult a Friar? Will I have to answer to a slightly less higher power?

Naw, Friar's actually encourge it

[vamboo]

Lefty,
Grow up, are you sure you're old enough to vote?

[Real USA]

Why is it that Bob, Rush, Triv gets vulgar and obnoxious on their shows, makes outrageous claims spreads false propaganda, are fear mongols yet the only man who talks about peace and justice, Art Mccoy, is the only one that has a disclaimer on his show on WTAM?

[Biz]

If you insult USA Network's "Monk", he'll likely come and clean your house!

Or give you a ride to / from Tom Nevers Field in his taxi cab.

[leftyg]

The whole point of this particular thread to me is the lack of consistency in conservative thought. Bob, for example, said that teachers are unpopular with many Americans because of their overwhelming contempt for then President Bush. He uttered the name in reverential tones "President Bush." He then calls President Obama a "stupid sonofabitch," his words not mine. There seems to be alot of dualistic thinking, mostly on the right, that it is OK for them to insult us lefties but not OK for us to return the favor. I just do not think that many righties have much self awaredness. They can be downright uncivil, but when it is done to them, they act like victims.

[kdoggy]

Lefty you have GOT TO BE JOKING all you on the left did was make fun of GWB, calling him stupid, war monger, murderer. Amoung a whole list of others.

[Ray from Maple]

The whole point of this particular thread to me is the lack of consistency in conservative thought. Bob, for example, said that teachers are unpopular with many Americans because of their overwhelming contempt for then President Bush. He uttered the name in reverential tones "President Bush." He then calls President Obama a "stupid sonofabitch," his words not mine. There seems to be alot of dualistic thinking, mostly on the right, that it is OK for them to insult us lefties but not OK for us to return the favor. I just do not think that many righties have much self awaredness. They can be downright uncivil, but when it is done to them, they act like victims.

How you are not able to separate personal attacks from attacks at ones party is beyond me. You are starting to sound like Sara Tonyn. Are you people so mesmerized by this Obama clown (YES..... I SAID CLOWN) that you take criticisms of him personally? There is no hypocrisy here. I've never seen anybody kicked out of this room (or warned) for somebody calling Bush or any Republican a name.

[kdoggy]

BOO HOO the President got negative press and not everyone fell on their knees to worship him.
I may not agree with calling the president a son of a bitch, but come on Lefty you are gong to claim that only the conservative have been rude towards a president.

[kdoggy]

[SubVetTonyP]

Lefty you have GOT TO BE JOKING all you on the left did was make fun of GWB, calling him stupid, war monger, murderer. Amoung a whole list of others.

And in case lefty and friends have forgotten some of the choice things said about President Bush, here are links (as this can not be posted) to some to jog their memories:

http://www.basetree.com/thumbs/****.jpg
http://usversusthem.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/****.jpg
http://revart.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/****.JPG
http://www.graffiti.org/eyegasm/big/f/****-bush01.jpg
http://theindependentvoice.tripod.com/theindependentvoice/index.blog?topic_id=16317
http://vesileoteli.com/
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/12/18572847_6c60cfec81.jpg
http://www.basetree.com/photos/no-rnc/liberated-from-republicans.html
http://www.pissedonpolitics.com/2007/05/democrats_not_backing_down.htm
http://www.underconsideration.com/oppositesattract08/archives/lost_in_translation_fuzz_vs_fu.php
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z123/javiwtr/kill_bush.jpg

This is, of course, only a partial list but you get the point.
My favorite is the little girl who's mother has her holding the sign. What a loving woman.

excuse me..........

[leftyg]

BOO HOO the President got negative press and not everyone fell on their knees to worship him. I may not agree with calling the president a son of a bitch, but come on Lefty you are gong to claim that only the conservative have been rude towards a president.

kdoggy, Bob, the host, called Obama a "stupid sonofabitch." Now i do not say much when a guy like Sharp or mighty does it because they are the LCD; you expect it from them. But when talk show hosts and opinion leaders do it, it is something else. Did you ever see a thread by me attacking Sharp? No, because I think he is hysterical. He makes me laugh while he is calling me a communist. But he is bottom of the barrel, and I expect it from him and the other wingnuts. I hold Bob to a higher standard. How long would Keith Olbermann or Chris Mathews last if they called Bush a "stupid sonofabitch?" There would be calls on this board for their termination, and you know it.

[SubVetTonyP]

BOO HOO the President got negative press and not everyone fell on their knees to worship him. I may not agree with calling the president a son of a bitch, but come on Lefty you are gong to claim that only the conservative have been rude towards a president.

kdoggy, Bob, the host, called Obama a "stupid sonofabitch." Now i do not say much when a guy like Sharp or mighty does it because they are the LCD; you expect it from them. But when talk show hosts and opinion leaders do it, it is something else. Did you ever see a thread by me attacking Sharp? No, because I think he is hysterical. He makes me laugh while he is calling me a communist. But he is bottom of the barrel, and I expect it from him and the other wingnuts. I hold Bob to a higher standard. How long would Keith Olbermann or Chris Mathews last if they called Bush a "stupid sonofabitch?" There would be calls on this board for their termination, and you know it.

Lefty, you assume that anybody here actually cares about your standard.
Get over it.
Remember, your guys won the election. Now they get the heat. It doesn't feel that good now does it?

[leftyg]

And in case lefty and friends have forgotten some of the choice things said about President Bush, here are links (as this can not be posted) to some to jog their memories:

http://www.basetree.com/thumbs/****.jpg
http://usversusthem.files.wordpress.com ... 7/****.jpg
http://revart.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/****.JPG
http://www.graffiti.org/eyegasm/big/f/****-bush01.jpg
http://theindependentvoice.tripod.com/t ... c_id=16317
http://vesileoteli.com/
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/12/18572 ... cfec81.jpg
http://www.basetree.com/photos/no-rnc/l ... icans.html
http://www.pissedonpolitics.com/2007/05 ... g_down.htm
http://www.underconsideration.com/oppos ... _vs_fu.php
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z123 ... l_bush.jpg

This is, of course, only a partial list but you get the point.
My favorite is the little girl who's mother has her holding the sign. What a loving woman.

excuse me..........

These were pictures of people like Sharp, only lefties dissing the President. These people are not supposedly responsible members of the media. Most of them were pulled Tony before I looked at them. And the last time I checked, it is OK to protest your governments actions. You show me comments made "only" of responsible journalists or Democratic leaders, then I'll agree. I can point to this board for outrageous comments about Obama and liberals. The little people get more slack.

[leftyg]

Lefty, you assume that anybody here actually cares about your standard.
Get over it.
Remember, your guys won the election. Now they get the heat. It doesn't feel that good now does it?

Its wonderful!

[Scorpion 29]

Lefty, you assume that anybody here actually cares about your standard.
Get over it.
Remember, your guys won the election. Now they get the heat. It doesn't feel that good now does it?

Its wonderful!

Well, time will tell Lefty. How much of your paycheck is he going to confiscate to take care of someone else's welfare when you need it for your healthcare?

We will just have to wait another 4 years for the MSM to sweep his (potential, but likely) failures under the rug for the Obama worshippers so as to have him re-elected by the Obamaites(those individuals who held praise and worship over his holiness this past week at the 'town hall meetings'). That was truly revolting.

By the way, has anyone read Bernie Goldber's Slobbering Love Affair? Don't dismiss Bernie, he may contribute to Fox, but he did work for CBS for 28 years.

[SubVetTonyP]

These were pictures of people like Sharp, only lefties dissing the President. These people are not supposedly responsible members of the media. Most of them were pulled Tony before I looked at them. And the last time I checked, it is OK to protest your governments actions. You show me comments made "only" of responsible journalists or Democratic leaders, then I'll agree. I can point to this board for outrageous comments about Obama and liberals. The little people get more slack.

Actually, they weren't pulled. The names of the pics were so foul that they came like "www.blahblah.blog/blah*****bush.jpg". Even the names of the linked pics were just plainly foul.
And they were not protesting the governments actions. They were insulting the President.

Seeing as you are not "responsible journalists or Democratic leader", your comments, by your own standard, are now null and void. If you have any doubts, check your quoted post above.

[leftyg]

Well, time will tell Lefty. How much of your paycheck is he going to confiscate to take care of someone else's welfare when you need it for your healthcare?

There is no way I am going to pay for my health care myself, OK. So do not try to play divide and conquer with me here. We went to far to the right in the Reagan Revolution, now we must go back to the left a little, that's all. It will not be the end of the world. As a matter of fact it may save the world.

We will just have to wait another 4 years for the MSM to sweep his (potential, but likely) failures under the rug for the Obama worshippers so as to have him re-elected by the Obamaites(those individuals who held praise and worship over his holiness this past week at the 'town hall meetings'). That was truly revolting.

What is revolting is after decades of being ignored the little people are finally being heard. You do not like what they say, but what they say will effect the future and I believe in a positive way.

By the way, has anyone read Bernie Goldber's Slobbering Love Affair? Don't dismiss Bernie, he may contribute to Fox, but he did work for CBS for 28 years.

Jim Adkisson, the Tennessee man who killed two people at a liberal Church in that state, used Goldberg's book "100 People who are Destroying America" as ammunition for his killing spree. Adkisson wanted to kill the priniciples in the book but said that he had to settle for common peole with liberal values like his victims. How does Goldberg react? He goes on a tirade against the New York Times and mentions attacking an editor with a blunt intrument.

Goldburg was a second stringer who got passed over and has had it in for the MSM ever since.

[glen65]

Biz wrote when he layed down the rules:

It's quite simple actually...

1. Don't curse. Pretend your mother and grandmother are in the room. We hold the same rules that apply to on air content. You know which words can't be used: s-word, f-word, p-word, c-word, c-sucker, mf'er, n-word, t-word, etc.

Replacing one letter with a "*" is not acceptable. We have to bleep the entire word for on air content. Those words are to be used only as portrayed above. When in doubt, leave it out.

Far enough, I have always followed that rule But not Bob Frantz. He wrote about President Obama

That stupid sonofabitch just admitted it!

After all this time blaming Bush and the "failed economic policies of the last 8 years"....he just admitted it!

I don't know about you but calling the president of the United States a "stupid sonofabitch" pretty much trumps anything I have heard on this blog. OR do we have different standards for some people?

At the very least it reflects poorly on Bob as a person, but it reflects badly on Biz and Dave Ramos for letting it stand. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4433&start=0

[mouthbreather]

Lefty, you assume that anybody here actually cares about your standard.
Get over it.
Remember, your guys won the election. Now they get the heat. It doesn't feel that good now does it?

Its wonderful!

Well, time will tell Lefty. How much of your paycheck is he going to confiscate to take care of someone else's welfare when you need it for your healthcare?

We will just have to wait another 4 years for the MSM to sweep his (potential, but likely) failures under the rug for the Obama worshippers so as to have him re-elected by the Obamaites(those individuals who held praise and worship over his holiness this past week at the 'town hall meetings'). That was truly revolting.

By the way, has anyone read Bernie Goldber's Slobbering Love Affair? Don't dismiss Bernie, he may contribute to Fox, but he did work for CBS for 28 years.

Was that lefty who werked a Mack Donald’s fer 4 years or one of his students? Edison collage sure can pump-em out!

[Scorpion 29]

Well, time will tell Lefty. How much of your paycheck is he going to confiscate to take care of someone else's welfare when you need it for your healthcare?

There is no way I am going to pay for my health care myself, OK. Didn't you say the Govt. wanted you to go on total disability to receive Medicaid, yet you refused? Then how is it being paid for if not by you or where you work? So do not try to play divide and conquer with me here. We went to far to the right in the Reagan Revolution, now we must go back to the left a little, that's all. It will not be the end of the world. As a matter of fact it may save the world. Lefty, are your eyglasses smudged up? You're having trouble seeing clearly. If we go any further left we're going to feel a continental drift.

We will just have to wait another 4 years for the MSM to sweep his (potential, but likely) failures under the rug for the Obama worshippers so as to have him re-elected by the Obamaites(those individuals who held praise and worship over his holiness this past week at the 'town hall meetings'). That was truly revolting.

What is revolting is after decades of being ignored the little people are finally being heard. You do not like what they say, but what they say will effect the future and I believe in a positive way. Little people who are looking for a nanny state. My dad never made much more than $25,000 a year (in his best year) with a wife and three kids, yet we wanted for nothing we had all our needs taken care of. We even went on two week vacations every year. He taught us the value of hard work and there is no such thing as a free lunch. Could be why I paid for my own college education (NO HELP FROM DADDY OR UNCLE SAM), then after my sister's two kids were in jr high she went to school and paid for it out of her pocket as well at BW, not exactly a cheap school. Excuse me for not expecting the same out of others.

By the way, has anyone read Bernie Goldber's Slobbering Love Affair? Don't dismiss Bernie, he may contribute to Fox, but he did work for CBS for 28 years.

Jim Adkisson, the Tennessee man who killed two people at a liberal Church in that state, used Goldberg's book "100 People who are Destroying America" as ammunition for his killing spree. Adkisson wanted to kill the priniciples in the book but said that he had to settle for common peole with liberal values like his victims. How does Goldberg react? He goes on a tirade against the New York Times and mentions attacking an editor with a blunt intrument. And there have never been any other documented cases of psychotic people killing others because of a book, movie or video game. Yeah, right. Goldburg was a second stringer who got passed over and has had it in for the MSM ever since.

Other than being Immelts(since he is now a member of Obama's Economic Advisory Team) mouthpiece, why does Olbermann (who seems to fancy himself Edward R Murrow) deserve a raise from $4 million to $7.5 million? He's been bought by Team Obama, albeit, indirectly. Rah Rah Rah. The sad thing is, there are people who really believe his tripe.

To be fair, we all see things in the world through our own prism, I just tend to see mine through Thomas and Benjamin, do their names ring a bell? Who, in our American history (or World history if you are so inclined), do you see your world through? Just curious.

[TribefanstuckinMA]

BOO HOO the President got negative press and not everyone fell on their knees to worship him. I may not agree with calling the president a son of a bitch, but come on Lefty you are gong to claim that only the conservative have been rude towards a president.

kdoggy, Bob, the host, called Obama a "stupid sonofabitch." Now i do not say much when a guy like Sharp or mighty does it because they are the LCD; you expect it from them. But when talk show hosts and opinion leaders do it, it is something else. Did you ever see a thread by me attacking Sharp? No, because I think he is hysterical. He makes me laugh while he is calling me a communist. But he is bottom of the barrel, and I expect it from him and the other wingnuts. I hold Bob to a higher standard. How long would Keith Olbermann or Chris Mathews last if they called Bush a "stupid sonofabitch?" There would be calls on this board for their termination, and you know it.

I looked, lefty, I really did, but I couldn't come up with a video of Keith Olbermann hysterically ripping Bush during the presidential debates; you might recall, though, that suddenly MSNBC decided he just wouldn't work out for the campaign anymore and sent him back to his show.

[leftyg]

I looked, lefty, I really did, but I couldn't come up with a video of Keith Olbermann hysterically ripping Bush during the presidential debates; you might recall, though, that suddenly MSNBC decided he just wouldn't work out for the campaign anymore and sent him back to his show.

Tribe fan, I have seen plenty of video where Olbermann rips Bush. I have no video of him calling then President Bush a "stupid sonofabitch." I have plenty of video where Olbermann attacks Bush's policies, but none where he throws reason aside and just insults Bush. The reason Bob called Obama a "stupid sonofabitch" is that he really has no convincing arguments to attack the president with. He has some opinions, but he has nothing particularly trenchant.

glen65, you almost succeeded in killing me. I almost choked to death looking at the picture of me whining I was laughing so hard! Thank you it was the most humorous insult I have yet received!

[hoosierguy]

So is the argument that the term "stupid sonofabitch" is somehow a greater insult than the terms used to describe President Bush? Terms like chimp, murderer, traitor, idiot, drunk, cokehead, and the like? Because there seems to be some sort of fascination with the exact term, rather than the idea of vitriol running throughout the political spectrum.

Yes, the right calls the left names. Yes, the left equally calls the right names.

We all done now?

[SharpSaber]

A profane word was used in describing Obama.

Dang! That's flat out wrong. There isn't a single word strong enough to describe that fricken fascist, racist, hateful, baby killer, back stabbing, arrogant f-word.

And let's not forget the three Republican SELLOUTS and the fricken A-word Party who don't have enough time to read the bill before they sign it.

WTF!? Over 200 years of Blood Lost for Freedom and Over Night our Country Goes Communist by a bunch of p-words who won't take the time to read it!? And to think fairness doctrine is the next course of action to limit freedom of speech. And after that they will be looking into taking away your guns.

These politicians should be (______)!
You fill in the blank to match your views.

[densa]

So, Sharp, are you accepting my bet regarding the re-instituting of the Fairness Doctrine? I could use a nice meal....

[densa]

Frantz's favorite term for anybody he disagrees with is "that lying sonofabitch". You can look it up.

[SharpSaber]

So, Sharp, are you accepting my bet regarding the re-instituting of the Fairness Doctrine? I could use a nice meal....

Densa - are you stoned? You keep talking about some bet, and no ones knows what the hell you are talking about.

The Fairness Doctrine is an infringement of freedom of speech by or government to silence the conservative voice.

If anyone decides to shoot and kill the politicians who put this forward, it would come to no suprise to me at all.

In fact, historically, good people have died so we could have freedom of speach so it would not suprise me at all if our country gets violent very soon.

And if a few liberals get taken out along the way, well, that wouldn't suprise me either.

I don't condone it. But it wouldn't suprise me.

[kdoggy]

So, Sharp, are you accepting my bet regarding the re-instituting of the Fairness Doctrine? I could use a nice meal....

[kdoggy]

So, Sharp, are you accepting my bet regarding the re-instituting of the Fairness Doctrine? I could use a nice meal....

Densa - are you stoned? You keep talking about some bet, and no ones knows what the hell you are talking about.

The Fairness Doctrine is an infringement of freedom of speech by or government to silence the conservative voice.

If anyone decides to shoot and kill the politicians who put this forward, it would come to no suprise to me at all.

In fact, historically, good people have died so we could have freedom of speach so it would not suprise me at all if our country gets violent very soon.

And if a few liberals get taken out along the way, well, that wouldn't suprise me either.

I don't condone it. But it wouldn't suprise me.

Man you really gotta stop talking about politicians being killed or taken out.

[hoosierguy]

Is it just me, or is that animation Michael Bolton from Office Space, in the scene where they beat the fax machine?

"PC Load letter?!? What the F-is that supposed to mean?"

[densa]

Just for Sharp...

Post subject: A bet for everyone on this board
PostPosted: Sunday, February 8th, 2009 10:00am
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I will bet anyone on this board dinner if the Fairness Doctrine ever returns. I would also like to know who thinks that the return of the Fairness Doctrine would "silence" people like Rush or Hannity? The reason that you think the way you do is bc you listen to this echo chamber all day.
Your side would gain a lot of cred if, once in a while, Rush would shut up and let someone from the other side talk. I'd bet ratings would go thru the roof.
At least Frantz, even tho he'd mock them, would listen to opposing viewpoints from others.

[kdoggy]

Is it just me, or is that animation Michael Bolton from Office Space, in the scene where they beat the fax machine?

"PC Load letter?!? What the F-is that supposed to mean?"

Nah, not just you

[SharpSaber]

Question, does LeftyG sound like a snivling p-word?

Honestly, he calls Bush Hitler and he cries like a mommas boy when some one calls ObamaNation on his crap by saying he's a liar, which by the way is a fact.

Well, here's another fact: Obama is more like Hitler than Bush and all conservative combined.

And there aren't enough p-words combined that could replace LeftyG.

I see censorship is alive from the left. Say anything they find offensive and you are supposed to say I'm sorry.

Say hello Leftg as I flip you the bird